Den Oever, Netherlands, 28-01-2012, 11.00 uur,
Larus smithsonianus
Ik kreeg reactie op birdforum.net van Rich Bonser;
Originally Posted by Divebird
American Herring Gull
All pictures from this year are the same bird; http://waarneming.nl/soort/photos/934
All pictures from this year are the same bird; http://waarneming.nl/soort/photos/934
It's a small bird with a dark mantle... both are issues regarding trying to nail a 4cy smiths this side of the Atlantic IMHO. I agree that it superficially resembles an AHG in certain aspects - the retained greater-coverts and an obvious tail band. But the suite of features it shows are within an argentatus too, and therefore I don't think you can conclusively say this is an AHG. Also, it does not 'feel' structurally like an AHG - no 'block head' and the bill seems rather thin and parallel-sided.
Ook reactie van Tom Johnson via facebook;
Hans Grotenhuis Hi Tom,
Can you say something about this gull, ALL pictures taken this year are the same gull; http://waarneming.nl/
Can you say something about this gull, ALL pictures taken this year are the same gull; http://waarneming.nl/
Tom Johnson; Hi Hans,
Aside from a couple of possible first cycle birds in the northeastern US, I've never knowingly laid eyes on a European Herring Gull. Something with this covert pattern, bill pattern, and degree of head/ body streaking seems pretty normal for an American bird, but I am not positive. Unfortunately, my reading comprehension of Dutch is pretty minimal - what are the current thoughts of the bird over there?
Aside from a couple of possible first cycle birds in the northeastern US, I've never knowingly laid eyes on a European Herring Gull. Something with this covert pattern, bill pattern, and degree of head/ body streaking seems pretty normal for an American bird, but I am not positive. Unfortunately, my reading comprehension of Dutch is pretty minimal - what are the current thoughts of the bird over there?
Na DNA onderzoek blijkt dit toch een "gewone" Zilvermeeuw.
http://waarneming.nl/waarneming/view/62825254
